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	<title>Comments on: Art Imitating Life Imitating Art</title>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.vindaugagallery.com/archives/29#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAH, have you checked out James Casebere?  He also makes models which he photographs; they are beautiful!

The question of post-moderism as an art label is tricky.  For example, I don't think I could justly label Casebere's work as post-modern, however, I could say that his wife Lorna Simpson's work draws upon many ideas that were prominent ideas of post-modernism.

Personally, I associate post-modernism with specific theories and types of analysis, such as those which deal with race, class, economics, colonialism, ideas of marginalisation, kitsch, pastiche, semiotics, etc.  Hud's reference to the meta-thinking was a good one, as post-modernism was all about the meta, but meta has come to stand alone these days because of it's relationship to the evolution of the internet. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAH, have you checked out James Casebere?  He also makes models which he photographs; they are beautiful!</p>
<p>The question of post-moderism as an art label is tricky.  For example, I don&#8217;t think I could justly label Casebere&#8217;s work as post-modern, however, I could say that his wife Lorna Simpson&#8217;s work draws upon many ideas that were prominent ideas of post-modernism.</p>
<p>Personally, I associate post-modernism with specific theories and types of analysis, such as those which deal with race, class, economics, colonialism, ideas of marginalisation, kitsch, pastiche, semiotics, etc.  Hud&#8217;s reference to the meta-thinking was a good one, as post-modernism was all about the meta, but meta has come to stand alone these days because of it&#8217;s relationship to the evolution of the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: wah</title>
		<link>http://www.vindaugagallery.com/archives/29#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>wah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't really think my work would qualify based soley upon the influence of Saudek's background wall.  It is just an influence, not an attempted recreation.

Also, Sherman was not specificly recreating scenes from B movies; she was just recreating the feel.  I took some definitive license with the application of my theory.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really think my work would qualify based soley upon the influence of Saudek&#8217;s background wall.  It is just an influence, not an attempted recreation.</p>
<p>Also, Sherman was not specificly recreating scenes from B movies; she was just recreating the feel.  I took some definitive license with the application of my theory.</p>
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		<title>By: hud</title>
		<link>http://www.vindaugagallery.com/archives/29#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>hud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 18:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think that simply putting this much meta-level thought into the work makes it post-modern. However, I would want to limit that to thought prior to the production of the work, which might be an unfair limitation if I were applying it to the question of whether a particular piece counted as art proper.

On the other hand. What might separate your work, shown here, from the others, shown here, is that your wall seems to be more of an homage than how Demand or Sherman are using their recreations.

Demand takes and image (1st) and recreates it (2nd), then he photographs it(3rd). Sherman took scenes from movies (1st), recreated them (2nd), and photographed them (3rd). Your work creates a scene (1st) which is imspired by the work of another, and photographs it (2nd). Perhaps I am making this distinction based on the level of replication. I assume that Demand and Sherman recreated their scenes to be nearly identical. While your scene was recreated in spirit, based on the work of another. If Sherman and Demand haven't done this then my distinction might fall away.

Mind you, I'm not saying anything normative about your work when I make a distinction between yours and theirs. I have never been entirely certain what post-modern is, except that as an era. I really like the question even if I haven't given the best response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think that simply putting this much meta-level thought into the work makes it post-modern. However, I would want to limit that to thought prior to the production of the work, which might be an unfair limitation if I were applying it to the question of whether a particular piece counted as art proper.</p>
<p>On the other hand. What might separate your work, shown here, from the others, shown here, is that your wall seems to be more of an homage than how Demand or Sherman are using their recreations.</p>
<p>Demand takes and image (1st) and recreates it (2nd), then he photographs it(3rd). Sherman took scenes from movies (1st), recreated them (2nd), and photographed them (3rd). Your work creates a scene (1st) which is imspired by the work of another, and photographs it (2nd). Perhaps I am making this distinction based on the level of replication. I assume that Demand and Sherman recreated their scenes to be nearly identical. While your scene was recreated in spirit, based on the work of another. If Sherman and Demand haven&#8217;t done this then my distinction might fall away.</p>
<p>Mind you, I&#8217;m not saying anything normative about your work when I make a distinction between yours and theirs. I have never been entirely certain what post-modern is, except that as an era. I really like the question even if I haven&#8217;t given the best response.</p>
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